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this started out as a discussion about cutting the debt, cutting the deficit and now what's going to happen is th smallest plans on the table are going to-- are not really going to cut the deficit in the long run and don't have major spending cuts and i noticed at one point when he was asked about the sequester, not just the tax side, but the automatic spending cuts about to kick in. he said if we raise revenue by the wealthy paying more, that would be sufficient to turn off this request or what's called the automatic spending cuts and that's what republicans have been suggesting if he raises more revenue raising taxes on the rich, he's not going to put it towards the deficit, but the president kind of suggested that today. >> and a question from the beginning and it's your segment, go ahead. >> i've been on the show for ten seconds, by first time on the "the five", you've interrupted me and contradicted me. >> there will be plenty more time for that, and welcome to "the five", and bob beckel. >> can i ask my question of ed. because ed, you mentioned that i had experience in dealing
this started out as a discussion about cutting the debt, cutting the deficit and now what's going to happen is th smallest plans on the table are going to-- are not really going to cut the deficit in the long run and don't have major spending cuts and i noticed at one point when he was asked about the sequester, not just the tax side, but the automatic spending cuts about to kick in. he said if we raise revenue by the wealthy paying more, that would be sufficient to turn off this request or...
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that deficit. liz: gentlemen, why is it okay if george bush wanted to cut taxes and not if president obama wants to cut taxes? at a certain point nobody loves taxes. however, married with spending cuts, why are we not hearing about that dennis kucinich? the spending cuts we need to see as well. >> i vocally opposed the bush tax cuts, look how are you paying for them? we're borrowing money from china to give tax cuts? what is going on? as far as spending look at amount of money wasted in pentagon. wars in iraq before all the bills are in. liz: well, 800,000 pent -- pentagon workers may be cut, may be furloughed due to these spending cuts. the question becomes all of you, maybe that is our version of austerity? maybe we need to feel that pain? >> these cuts were --. liz: let me let representative mulvaney get first crack. >> let's try to find still very lining here. what we've learned from the american publlc during the last two weeks is as attention turned to the fiscal cliff, they don't want their
that deficit. liz: gentlemen, why is it okay if george bush wanted to cut taxes and not if president obama wants to cut taxes? at a certain point nobody loves taxes. however, married with spending cuts, why are we not hearing about that dennis kucinich? the spending cuts we need to see as well. >> i vocally opposed the bush tax cuts, look how are you paying for them? we're borrowing money from china to give tax cuts? what is going on? as far as spending look at amount of money wasted in...
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not even close to fixing the deficit snding. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of class warfare rhetoric is serving a purpose. the reality is the proposed tax increases will fund the federal government for approximaely eight days. it might make people feel good and that's a reason to pass it. frankly, i don't hear any politicians talking reality but thfiscal problems facing the country which is democrat or republican. tom: do you have any hope that the blame game can be put aside so they can get some work done? in the private sector these people would be fired. >> absolutely. this is a do nothing congress, the least active in four years when it comes to policy making, and the reason we are here is that the delay decisions for the past two years. i do think that something will happen because if it doesn't the consequences will be so severe in the next year again over 9 percent unemployment and a significant slowdown in an already slow econo. tom: but the blame game, who is going to get t
not even close to fixing the deficit snding. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of class warfare rhetoric is serving a purpose. the reality is the proposed tax increases will fund the federal government for approximaely eight days. it might make people feel good and that's a reason to pass it. frankly, i don't hear any politicians talking reality but thfiscal problems facing the country which is democrat or republican. tom: do you have any hope...
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the ability to fund the deficit goes on without much hiccup at all. we're still paying low rates for borrowing. 1.7%. all those predictions were -- >> they were playing ridiculously low rates in greece too. it's a dollar bubble. it's a treasury bond bubble. will it burst in 2013? maybe. it's going to burst eventually. it has to burst. >> peter, it's not a model. it's not a model to say something bad will happen eventually. >> your model about being a pollyanna and having your head in the sand -- >> it's not. >> how did you miss the financial crisis? >> i have no idea what you're talking about, peter. i have no idea what you're talking about. i was one of the first reporters to report on the housing and the mortgage crisis. i'll show you the clips. >> you were one of the guys laughing on me when i was report -- >> like a lot of what you say is ridiculous. >> guys, guys. [ overlapping speakers ] >> time-out. >> something bad will happen eventually, peter. >> time-out guys. i have a question for you peter. you're predicting currency crisis and significan
the ability to fund the deficit goes on without much hiccup at all. we're still paying low rates for borrowing. 1.7%. all those predictions were -- >> they were playing ridiculously low rates in greece too. it's a dollar bubble. it's a treasury bond bubble. will it burst in 2013? maybe. it's going to burst eventually. it has to burst. >> peter, it's not a model. it's not a model to say something bad will happen eventually. >> your model about being a pollyanna and having your...
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dropping being squeezed every year by my conservative friends on the other side of the aisle, with deficits remaining high, every dollar of sacrifice that the wealthy forego is sacrifice that we will later be asking of real middle-class, modest-income americans. every dollar that the top 2% of taxpayers do not pay under this deal, we will eventually ask folks of modest means to foreg forego -- to forego in social security or medicare or medicaid or head start benefits or other items that benefit the real middle class. i believe it is gravely shortsighted to look at these issues in isolation from each other, especially since the republicans have made crystal clear they intend to seek mandatory spending cuts just two months from now using the debt limit as leverage. so number three, why in this deal do we make the tax benefits for the rich permanent while the progressive tax benefits we put in place in 2009 to help people of modest means, why are those temporary? for example, the estate taxes that benefit the wealthiest are made permanent. the earned income tax credit that affects the lower i
dropping being squeezed every year by my conservative friends on the other side of the aisle, with deficits remaining high, every dollar of sacrifice that the wealthy forego is sacrifice that we will later be asking of real middle-class, modest-income americans. every dollar that the top 2% of taxpayers do not pay under this deal, we will eventually ask folks of modest means to foreg forego -- to forego in social security or medicare or medicaid or head start benefits or other items that...
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, structural deficits that undermine the soundness of our future finances. in addition, the bill that we considered last night created some additional fiscal cliffs in the very near future, within two months, within march. and one is that it doesn't address the debt ceiling. now, debt ceiling isn't about what we spend, not about the decisions on what we spend, it's whether or not we're going to pay the bill after the spending has been authorized. it's like saying to yourself, you know, when the credit card bill comes, i'm just not going to pay it. because i shouldn't have spent so much money. that's what the debt ceiling is. not to pay the bills you've already incurred. well, what happened the last time that we had this controversy is our national credit rating was diminished and that means when you borrow money, you have to pay more so we shot ourselves in the foot to no purpose. the time to make the decision over what you spend is when you're making the spending decision, not when the bill arrives later. you've already made that commitment. you're already
, structural deficits that undermine the soundness of our future finances. in addition, the bill that we considered last night created some additional fiscal cliffs in the very near future, within two months, within march. and one is that it doesn't address the debt ceiling. now, debt ceiling isn't about what we spend, not about the decisions on what we spend, it's whether or not we're going to pay the bill after the spending has been authorized. it's like saying to yourself, you know, when the...
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you were a member of the bowles mpson deficit commission and voted for the final report. that proposed almost $3 trillion in spending cuts. president obama's last offer the one that the republicans rejected was less than $1 trillion in spending cuts. we checked. that would be less than 2% of the $44 trillion the government will spend over the next decade. again, is that the best democrats can do? 2% of all of the spending over the next decade? >> you know, this conversation to me is exactly what is wrong in washington. i mean just listen to the conversation you have is just had. it is he said, she said, blame the other guy. look, i tried to be constructive here and lay out an actual plan to get us nearly $4 trillion by taking the offers that are on the table. speaker boehner and the president were so close and then speaker boehner went off on plan b. i never understood why. had no prospect of succeeding. it did not succeed even in his own caucus. now, the question. >> chris: but you are not answering my question. >> because i tell you something because we only have nine d
you were a member of the bowles mpson deficit commission and voted for the final report. that proposed almost $3 trillion in spending cuts. president obama's last offer the one that the republicans rejected was less than $1 trillion in spending cuts. we checked. that would be less than 2% of the $44 trillion the government will spend over the next decade. again, is that the best democrats can do? 2% of all of the spending over the next decade? >> you know, this conversation to me is...
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tom: will that tax solve the deficit spending? >> it will if you include 2%, 250,000 for couples, 200,000 for individuals and above. you start taxing capital gains and dividends, reinstate that and get rid of $109 billion in corporate taxes every year. you're looking it over $300 billion. ." tom: upside-down by trillion closet -- a trillion dollars. not even close to fixing the deficit spending. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of class warfare rhetoric is serving a purpose. the reality is the proposed tax increases will fund the federal government for approximately eight days. it might make people feel good and that's a reason to pass it. frankly, i don't hear any politicians talking reality but the fiscal problems facing the country which is democrat or republican. tom: do you have any hope that the blame game can be put aside so they can get some work done? in the private sector these people would be fired. >> absolutely. this is a do nothing congress, the least active in four years w
tom: will that tax solve the deficit spending? >> it will if you include 2%, 250,000 for couples, 200,000 for individuals and above. you start taxing capital gains and dividends, reinstate that and get rid of $109 billion in corporate taxes every year. you're looking it over $300 billion. ." tom: upside-down by trillion closet -- a trillion dollars. not even close to fixing the deficit spending. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of...
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democrats and republicans agreed to these drastic cuts last year, to force both parties to the table on deficit reduction. if they can agree by monday at midnight, the following cut take effects. over the next nine years, the u.s. defense budget would be reduced by $455 billion. domestic programs would be slashed by 464 billion. 1,000 government programs face potential cuts, including three that directly impact air travel. john bentley has the story. >> reporter: long waits at airport security are nothing new. but if the u.s. government goes over the fiscal cliff, they could get even longer. according to one congressional analysis, the transportation security administration would lose more than $640 million in funding, roughly 7% of out budget. t.s.a. with would also lose over 7,000 security officers. safety would not be compromised. the passenger misery would increase. >> it could be a severe impact on the traveling public. instead of maybe one hour, you may be there two or three hours before. >> reporter: long lines would be the least of the problems. under the mandatory cuts of the fiscal cl
democrats and republicans agreed to these drastic cuts last year, to force both parties to the table on deficit reduction. if they can agree by monday at midnight, the following cut take effects. over the next nine years, the u.s. defense budget would be reduced by $455 billion. domestic programs would be slashed by 464 billion. 1,000 government programs face potential cuts, including three that directly impact air travel. john bentley has the story. >> reporter: long waits at airport...
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doesn't contribute to the deficit. and we're talking about the deficit. why should social security be discussed in that context? >> completely off the table? >> absolutely. absolutely. and that was the -- and that was our position during the campaign. social security has nothing to do with the deficit. does not contribute to it. walled off from it. its own trust fund with $2.7 trillion in it at the moment. and the american people by huge majorities say we shouldn't be cutting social security or for that matter medicare benefits. you can cut medicare in ways you don't cut benefits and the hypocrisy of republicans that said that democrats are terrible because they took $716 billion from medicare for obama care and what do we want to do? pocket the cuts and add more. our chief demand is entitlement cuts. medicare and social security. >> talk about the debt ceiling and where this is played in to this conversation. that is coming up in february or supposed to come up in february. john boehner made the offer to take it off the table for a year but i want to sho
doesn't contribute to the deficit. and we're talking about the deficit. why should social security be discussed in that context? >> completely off the table? >> absolutely. absolutely. and that was the -- and that was our position during the campaign. social security has nothing to do with the deficit. does not contribute to it. walled off from it. its own trust fund with $2.7 trillion in it at the moment. and the american people by huge majorities say we shouldn't be cutting social...
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unemployment insurance for two million americans, and lace the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would be red ink as far as the eye can see. and it would hurt jobs. >> if congress fails to reach any agreement in con-- income tax rates will go up on about everybody on january 1st. unemployment benefits will expire for many as well. >>> the u.s. senator arrested for driving under the influence says he is "deeply sorry" for what happened. police say that michael crapo was pulled over early sunday in dc for running a red light. he he was arrested after failing a sobriety test. he has been released on bond and he is a mormon from idaho and has said in past interviews he abstains tans from drinking because it's prohibit -- from drinking abtans interest -- abstains from drinking alcohol because it's prohibited by the church. >>> bolt a man has been -- a man is 36-year-old gregory stegall and a officer was on patrol when he noticed a suspicious man behind the shell. he asked the man to come out from behind the business and he re
unemployment insurance for two million americans, and lace the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would be red ink as far as the eye can see. and it would hurt jobs. >> if congress fails to reach any agreement in con-- income tax rates will go up on about everybody on january 1st. unemployment benefits will expire for many as well. >>> the u.s. senator arrested for driving under the influence...
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don't forget who asked and demanded for deficit reduction. when i talked to a capitol hill staffer, here's what he said. he said -- this is very important -- "if it's a status quo election some kind of deal that staifz off sec quest rags. >> the republicans. >> i have to say it, it is the republicans that the point that are arguing against deficit reduction. they want to cancel the see quester, which is military spending cut. >> only on their terms. >> they would like spending cuts, but they would like -- they won't be ebbing mrift about exactly how do do it. >> i want to give luke the last word on this. >> is there a chance? just your kind of read on the final word on this, do we end today with some kind of a deal, or do they punt this and try to do it before january 3rd or not at all, just go over the cliff? >> i think that there's a possibility you could see a deal come out of the senate today, although i think if any deal comes out of the senate, the house will most likely vote on it tomorrow. i don't see a late night new year's eve vote
don't forget who asked and demanded for deficit reduction. when i talked to a capitol hill staffer, here's what he said. he said -- this is very important -- "if it's a status quo election some kind of deal that staifz off sec quest rags. >> the republicans. >> i have to say it, it is the republicans that the point that are arguing against deficit reduction. they want to cancel the see quester, which is military spending cut. >> only on their terms. >> they would...
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this became 2011, when it came to we had the demanded that it reduce the deficit. because of the debt ceiling without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. democrats, republicans, wanted a stricter tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost the american it is trouble a credit rating in the first time in history. at the last moment, they both agreed to a trillion dollars in spending cuts and 1.2 trillion to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if this cannot be reached, this automatic across-the-board cuts as the sequester would go into effect starting january, 2013. at the exact moment when the abortion-era tax cuts required-bush-era tax cuts could have been expired like they did two years ago but once we often got drowned out by seemingly endless and continuous elections in america. this time, there could be a serious price to pay for it. >> another developing story tonightrussian authorities say a fifth person has died from yesterday's plane crash in moscow. she was a flight atten
this became 2011, when it came to we had the demanded that it reduce the deficit. because of the debt ceiling without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. democrats, republicans, wanted a stricter tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost the american it is trouble a credit rating in the first time in history. at the last moment, they both agreed to a trillion dollars in spending cuts and 1.2 trillion to be decided by a special congressional super committee....
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you said you would cut the deficit in half. it's still four years later, we still have a trillion dollar deficit. >> a roller coaster where for a long time it was thought to be a foregone conclusion the president would win. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> while mitt romney came on strong, the president's lackluster performance, looking down, scowling, growling, left many democrats stunned. >> they all assumed the fetal position and sobbed in unison. that was terrible. it was hard to watch, but some of the analysis afterwards really exposed some deficiencies in the democratic machine. >> for the republicans, it was arguably the best moment of the whole year for their candidate. >> i don't think his campaign really kicked into high gear until that first debate when he started to get some momentum. >> unfortunately for romney -- ♪ here i am >> it was also the best wake-up call for president obama who came alive in the next two encounters. >> we have to reduce our deficit but we have to do it in a balanced way. >> worst n
you said you would cut the deficit in half. it's still four years later, we still have a trillion dollar deficit. >> a roller coaster where for a long time it was thought to be a foregone conclusion the president would win. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> while mitt romney came on strong, the president's lackluster performance, looking down, scowling, growling, left many democrats stunned. >> they all assumed the fetal position and sobbed in unison. that was...
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the president and house speaker john boehner had once talked of a grand bargain with $4 trillion in deficit reduction. instead the congressional budget office calculated today that extending the bush era tax cuts for 99% of americans would add $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. the senate measure delays mandatory pentagon and domestic spending cuts by two months. as the house convened at midday a number of republican congressmen complained the bill is still too heavy on tax hikes and too light on spending cuts. ohio's steve la tourette dismissed it as a, quote, package put together by a bunch of sleep-deprived october octogenenarians on new year's eve and the alabama representative said the house needs more time. >> the house must postpone this vote until congress and the american people have time to study and evaluate this extraordinarily complex legislation and its impact on taxes, revenue, the economy our debt and a myriad of other issues. >> woodruff: tennessee democrat steve cohen warned about the consequences of not taking the senate deal. >> my district can't afford to
the president and house speaker john boehner had once talked of a grand bargain with $4 trillion in deficit reduction. instead the congressional budget office calculated today that extending the bush era tax cuts for 99% of americans would add $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. the senate measure delays mandatory pentagon and domestic spending cuts by two months. as the house convened at midday a number of republican congressmen complained the bill is still too heavy on tax hikes...
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it will increase the size of the deficit. if you are looking for ways to fix the problem, we have the biggest place to go in terms of cuts. ashley: thank you so much. thank you for joining us. shibani: the city of chicago is number one and parking costs. giving chicago the most expensive parking meters in the country. downtown residents can look forward, starting tomorrow, to paying $6.50 for parking in 2013. up from the current rate of $5.75. back in 2008, former mayor richard daley agreed to release the parking meters to a private company. the city in turn received a billion dollars as part of the agreement. current mayor is investigating the deal, but, in the meantime, all meters will be set to the new rate to the end of february. get your quarters out. bring your dollar bills, i guess. ashley: take the bus. shibani: the midnight deadline is fast approaching. will there be a framework to avoid the fiscal cliff? ashley: up to the minute coverage from washington. guess what, republicans should just walk away now. oh, boy. â™
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policy, and that bit of detail he gave a week ago in a speech is basically derived from the larger deficit proposal offered over, really, the last couple years as president of the united states. we're waiting whether or not in the meeting, lasting an hour at the white house, started at 3:10, is whether or not they made progress towards changing that proposal in a fashion to pass the house of representatives or make it viable for some senate republicans to join with that. the president, the administration officials say they offered the proposal as a way to get republicans to come back with something else, they say. if not, the president wants this plan to be voted on in the house and to be voted on in the senate. this proposal is unlikely, would be making it through the house unless there's progress made off the president's opening offer, a very old offer, then we're in trouble. back to you david: that's why s&p futures went down after the bell, focused on what happens with no progress. that may change. the president is still meeting on both sides. we'll wait and see what happens when they
policy, and that bit of detail he gave a week ago in a speech is basically derived from the larger deficit proposal offered over, really, the last couple years as president of the united states. we're waiting whether or not in the meeting, lasting an hour at the white house, started at 3:10, is whether or not they made progress towards changing that proposal in a fashion to pass the house of representatives or make it viable for some senate republicans to join with that. the president, the...
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the same is true for any future deficit agreement. we will have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i am willing to do more but it will have to be balanced. we will have to do it in a responsible way. i am willing to reduce our government's medicare bills by finding new ways to reduce the costs of health care in this country. that is something which all agree on. we want to make sure that medicare is there for future generations but the current trajectory of health care costs is going up so high that we have to find ways to make sure that it is sustainable. that kind of reform has to go hand in hand with doing some more work to reform our tax code so that wealthy individuals, the biggest corporations, cannot take advantage of loopholes and deductions that are not available to most of the folks standing up here for most americans. there is still more work to be done in the tax code to make it fair even as we are also looking at how we can strengthen something like medicare. if republicans think i will finish the job of the defic
the same is true for any future deficit agreement. we will have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i am willing to do more but it will have to be balanced. we will have to do it in a responsible way. i am willing to reduce our government's medicare bills by finding new ways to reduce the costs of health care in this country. that is something which all agree on. we want to make sure that medicare is there for future generations but the current trajectory of health care costs is going up...
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are you going to pay down the deficit? if you are going to use it for more government spending we don't want a part of it. senator mcconnell on the republican side seemed to get frustrated because he felt like the democrats were slow walking the th, 18 hours without a response. mcconnell made a call to a well known senator, joe biden to see if he could help. >> we're willing to work with whoever can help. no single issue remains an impossible sticking point. a sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. >> reporter: as senate aide says it was designed to try to jumpstart the talks and consequences of getting a tax increase is a huge concern. >> gregg: what went awry in these talks? >> you heard senator thune. a fiscal cliff deal is a new way calculating inflation that would lower social security payments. democrats say they would do it as part of much bigger deal but it was off the table for the smaller deal they are working on. so democrats called it a poison pill. >>
are you going to pay down the deficit? if you are going to use it for more government spending we don't want a part of it. senator mcconnell on the republican side seemed to get frustrated because he felt like the democrats were slow walking the th, 18 hours without a response. mcconnell made a call to a well known senator, joe biden to see if he could help. >> we're willing to work with whoever can help. no single issue remains an impossible sticking point. a sticking point appears to be...
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it ought to be about reducing the deficit and debt. they're suggesting we want new taxes, higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> republicans continue saying they're waiting for harry reid to make a counter offer. >> they're not making that tonight. he's told us that's not going to happen it but they're working on it. a sounds like a change of entitlement programs is irritating them. >> republicans created way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. the senate majority leader offered this update a short time ago. >>> i was really gratified to hear republicans took their dammed for social security benefit cuts off the table. they should never have been on the table. there's still significant distance between the sides but negotiations continue. there's still time left and we intend to continue negotiations. >> senator mitch mcconnell says there was no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. all that's is needed he says is a willingness, interest, or courage
it ought to be about reducing the deficit and debt. they're suggesting we want new taxes, higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> republicans continue saying they're waiting for harry reid to make a counter offer. >> they're not making that tonight. he's told us that's not going to happen it but they're working on it. a sounds like a change of entitlement programs is irritating them. >> republicans created way of calculating inflation to lower...
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having said that, we still of the deficit issue. we still have a deficit problem. what we tried to establish this morning in this vote, revenue has to be part of the solution. the other side of the aisle reluctantly, after years of resisting, came to our side on this problem. number two, we need to look in entitlements. here is what the facts are. social security can make every promise of payment for 20 years. you cannot say that about any other federal program. on the 21st year, there will be a drop-off of 30% in terms of social security benefits. so, we of 20 years. we can wait to do something, or we can do something soon, maybe even this year, 2013. that is what i would like to see. i am preparing legislation which will call for the creation of a commission with a simple assignment, come up with a plan for a 75 year solvency of social security. when you haven't and it has been certified to be a valid plan, -- have its and it has been certified to be a valid plan, bring it to congress where it can be passed without a filibuster. to haveve this chance this debate
having said that, we still of the deficit issue. we still have a deficit problem. what we tried to establish this morning in this vote, revenue has to be part of the solution. the other side of the aisle reluctantly, after years of resisting, came to our side on this problem. number two, we need to look in entitlements. here is what the facts are. social security can make every promise of payment for 20 years. you cannot say that about any other federal program. on the 21st year, there will be...
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we are looking at the deficit of this year and looking at deficit of that size as far as the eye can see and not how to put together a minor package as chuck was talking about. this is the larger deal. the problem you have, obviously, not much time so i think you're likely to see a two-step process here. dealing with the immediate dynamics to, in fact, set up a situation to deal with the larger situation. but ultimately, here, the other element to occur is this is a real negotiating process. i have to say i was disappointed in the president when he used this line, when the speaker said to him, hey, i'm giving you $800 billion. what do i zbhet the president's response was nothing. the white house has to come up with -- >> the response of the white house is times is different. 2011 is 2011. doesn't speaker boehner get less out of a smaller deal? >> no, no. i think he wants a larger deal and going back to august of 2011, they were -- they got very close to the large deal. richard, pushing back in terms of a little bit in terms, look, this is a negotiating process. one side can't say you
we are looking at the deficit of this year and looking at deficit of that size as far as the eye can see and not how to put together a minor package as chuck was talking about. this is the larger deal. the problem you have, obviously, not much time so i think you're likely to see a two-step process here. dealing with the immediate dynamics to, in fact, set up a situation to deal with the larger situation. but ultimately, here, the other element to occur is this is a real negotiating process. i...
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republicans would like to see more deficit reduction. so, they're saying if there are new taxes, spend it down on the deficit, don't use it for spending. chris? >> now, kelly, one other quick question. you've been up there probably for the last 96 hours, maybe more straight. what's the mood? i know we've got this report that mcconnell and joe biden worked late into the evening and that there seems to be a little bit more positivity than maybe when people like me went to bed last night, a little early. so, is the mood moving in the direction of a deal? is that what -- because it seemed like pessimism sort of toward the late afternoon yesterday. where are we right now, quickly? >> reporter: it does fluctuate. there is exasperation and frustration, especially from members here waiting to vote on something but have nothing to look at. they are wanting to see something done. the people closest to it tell us they are still working at it, that they see there isn't one particular issue that would make this all fall apart, but they're not there y
republicans would like to see more deficit reduction. so, they're saying if there are new taxes, spend it down on the deficit, don't use it for spending. chris? >> now, kelly, one other quick question. you've been up there probably for the last 96 hours, maybe more straight. what's the mood? i know we've got this report that mcconnell and joe biden worked late into the evening and that there seems to be a little bit more positivity than maybe when people like me went to bed last night, a...
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they have all deficit versions of mental illness and personality disorders. these profiles are the same and they're all doing it. it is connected. >> it is. jonathan, the problem is, when you talk about it, you talk about violence in hollywood movies or video games, you'll have people on the left saying, you're just trying to show the nra -- then, when you go after the nra, you will have people saying, you're not looking at mental health. everybody creates a false choice. if you talk about violence on americans and somehow not talking about guns and if you talk about guns, you're not taking a strong stand on mental health and everybody avoids the issues and not getting anything done. >> everyone is using the argument as diversions from dealing with the issues at hand. none of these things have been in isolation. i'm glad you're having this conversation because one thing be gets the other. if people don't think violent video games has something to do with this or mental illness has something to do with this and growing isolation of young boys or young people h
they have all deficit versions of mental illness and personality disorders. these profiles are the same and they're all doing it. it is connected. >> it is. jonathan, the problem is, when you talk about it, you talk about violence in hollywood movies or video games, you'll have people on the left saying, you're just trying to show the nra -- then, when you go after the nra, you will have people saying, you're not looking at mental health. everybody creates a false choice. if you talk...
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at the moment we will have a fairly modest amount of deficit reduction. maybe even none at all. mixed with a fairly bad economic impact from the fiscal cliff. kicking some of the sequester down the road would be a good idea but it's the same disagreements keeping us from doing that that has kept us from getting a bigger deal. >> where we are right now and what we know about this, sam, is it clear whether one side gave more than the other? >> you know, it's just the first chapter of a several-chapter book here because now we're going to have to deal with the debt ceiling fight and republicans have been calculating that they want to extract some concessions from the white house on that. that can't be considered separate from what we're talking about today. of course, we have to do the sequestration and what will happen with those cuts. so it's too early to tell who wins, who loses. i'll add to ezra, the big losers i guess are us, and me in particular standing out here in the cold on new year's eve over a manufactured crisis. >> there are a lot of us who did not expect to be here a
at the moment we will have a fairly modest amount of deficit reduction. maybe even none at all. mixed with a fairly bad economic impact from the fiscal cliff. kicking some of the sequester down the road would be a good idea but it's the same disagreements keeping us from doing that that has kept us from getting a bigger deal. >> where we are right now and what we know about this, sam, is it clear whether one side gave more than the other? >> you know, it's just the first chapter of...
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. >> catherine, isn't it their deficit in large part deficit? >> of course, but they have political amnesia. ideology is the science of idiots. here's one of these moments where when you live inside the box and refuse to look at empirical evidence, refuse to understand history to show us how economies work, how tax cuts or increases affect populations, then they are going to follow this line of idiocy over their own, i think, political cliff. and the partisanship is going to wreak tremendous havoc on the republican party in the upcoming elections. >> we have limited time. i want to go back to john harwood. is there a time here, john, when we're going to see the markets start to react or are we expecting most traders to wait until after the first to make big decisions? >> i think that's when they reacted. if we go over the cliff, even for a couple of days, you're going to see a reaction. i think at the end of the day you will see action if we go over the cliff for a couple of days, because i don't agree with jonathan that they are immune to publi
. >> catherine, isn't it their deficit in large part deficit? >> of course, but they have political amnesia. ideology is the science of idiots. here's one of these moments where when you live inside the box and refuse to look at empirical evidence, refuse to understand history to show us how economies work, how tax cuts or increases affect populations, then they are going to follow this line of idiocy over their own, i think, political cliff. and the partisanship is going to wreak...
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the republicans complained there's not enough deficit reduction. >> in the present plan, put nearly another trillion dollars of debt on the american people. >> reporter: some democrats is port the plan to prevent more financial instability. >> my district can't afford to wait few days and have the stock market go down 300 points tomorrow if we don't get together and do something. >> reporter: wall street jiters are one problem. without a deal that can go to the president. income taxes will rise for almost every american. as pat mentioned the senate apparently is done waiting if an amended bill is sent to the house to the senate mitt. senate leaders say they will not act on it. the whole fiscal cliff crisis will then be turned over to the new congress which comes to work on thursday. live on capitol hill, jennifer johnson, news4. >> thanks, jennifer. >>> well, no relief in the weather. nothing but gray skies to start out this new year. around the district these are live pictures at union station. not much in the way of rain or snow, though. >> storm team 4 chief meteorologist doug kammerer t
the republicans complained there's not enough deficit reduction. >> in the present plan, put nearly another trillion dollars of debt on the american people. >> reporter: some democrats is port the plan to prevent more financial instability. >> my district can't afford to wait few days and have the stock market go down 300 points tomorrow if we don't get together and do something. >> reporter: wall street jiters are one problem. without a deal that can go to the...
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health care, the biggest add to our deficit in this country is rising health care costs. do we need to tackle those? how do they interact with the changes that are going to be set up across the country. is it going to cost the taxpayer more or less? all those have to be in the realm of realistic facts and figures. >> you're in arizona today. many of your constituents worked over the holidays. do you think congress should have stayed in washington to work together for an agreement? >> absolutely. absolutely. once you know, once the boehner plan b collapsed, all we got was a notification, you can go home, we'll call you when we're ready. >> boehner's got to get off the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. congressman, you just heard your arizona colleague say
health care, the biggest add to our deficit in this country is rising health care costs. do we need to tackle those? how do they interact with the changes that are going to be set up across the country. is it going to cost the taxpayer more or less? all those have to be in the realm of realistic facts and figures. >> you're in arizona today. many of your constituents worked over the holidays. do you think congress should have stayed in washington to work together for an agreement?...
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we have a $16 trillion deficit right now. we have the deficit because of social security, medicaid, medicare, welfare, food stamps -- all policies put into effect by the democratic party. everything is socialism. thomas jefferson said it best -- the republic is doomed. people sacrifice -- i'm a libertarian. i am more objective. i'm not a republican or democrats. i have to wonder if i want to live in this country. 29% of americans got some kind of assistance when ronald reagan was president. i have to consider and i'm considering moving to a tropical island and watching america go down the drain. we need to abolish social security, medicare, and medicaid. host: i will stop you there. we appreciate your thoughts. joseph says -- will go back to stay but by the president on the passing of norman schwarzkopf. host: "his legacy will e ndure." back to your calls. caller: good morning. god bless us. [indiscernible] where is the love? .e're at a church when the president and everybody was running. the church was all over the program.
we have a $16 trillion deficit right now. we have the deficit because of social security, medicaid, medicare, welfare, food stamps -- all policies put into effect by the democratic party. everything is socialism. thomas jefferson said it best -- the republic is doomed. people sacrifice -- i'm a libertarian. i am more objective. i'm not a republican or democrats. i have to wonder if i want to live in this country. 29% of americans got some kind of assistance when ronald reagan was president. i...
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with leaders of both parties to try to forge an agreement that would grow our economy and shrink the deficit, a balanced plan that would cut spending in a responsible way but also ask wealthy americans to pay more and protect our middle-class and everyone striving to get into the middle class. i want to get this done. it is the right thing to do for our families, businesses, and our economy, but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. we are at the point where in four days every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every americans' paychecks will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do for our economy, it would be bad for middle-class families, and it would be bad for businesses that depend on family spending. congress can prevent it if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house with leadership about how to prevent the tax hike on the middle class. we may reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak, but if an agreemen
with leaders of both parties to try to forge an agreement that would grow our economy and shrink the deficit, a balanced plan that would cut spending in a responsible way but also ask wealthy americans to pay more and protect our middle-class and everyone striving to get into the middle class. i want to get this done. it is the right thing to do for our families, businesses, and our economy, but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. we are at the point where in four days every...
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. >> reporter: republicans introduced but quickly withdrew a proposal to cut the deficit by slowing social security. >> there is a lot of give and take going on right now but republicans don't want to see tax increases used for new spending. >> reporter: vice president joe biden was called on to help with the negotiations, this as the white house places a lot of the blame for the impasse on the gop. >> they say their biggest prior is making sure we deal with a deficit in a serious way. but the way they are behaving is their only priority is making sure tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> reporter: if a deal isn't reached the president wants to introduce legislation to keep tax cuts for couples earning up to $250,000 a year and to keep unemployment benefits. randall pinkston, cbs news, washington. >> if you want the latest information on the fiscal cliff, you go to our home page just click the fiscal cliff banner at the top of the page. >>> dc police are investigating two fatal shootings in southeast over the weekend. early yesterday morning officers found a man uncons
. >> reporter: republicans introduced but quickly withdrew a proposal to cut the deficit by slowing social security. >> there is a lot of give and take going on right now but republicans don't want to see tax increases used for new spending. >> reporter: vice president joe biden was called on to help with the negotiations, this as the white house places a lot of the blame for the impasse on the gop. >> they say their biggest prior is making sure we deal with a deficit in...
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the grand bargain, something to prevent taxes going up, and also lay the groundwork potentially for deficit reduction in the future. i think you will see president obama cut his vacation short, and continue to play a role in those negotiations. richard. >>> kristin, over the weekend, he attended the funeral for the late senator inouye, who he has called an inspiration to him. what did you see in that service? >> well, more than 20 members of congress attended, mostly democrats, majority leader harry reid spoke and praised senator inouye for his partisan spirit, reaching across the aisle. of course in an earlier memorial service, the president called the late senator his earlier inspiration, on a a lot of members of congress came together to pay their respects. >> thank you, kristin. >>> if congress and the president fail to reach a deal, the impact is as unlikely as immediate as the term "fiscal cliff" seems to imply. the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would en
the grand bargain, something to prevent taxes going up, and also lay the groundwork potentially for deficit reduction in the future. i think you will see president obama cut his vacation short, and continue to play a role in those negotiations. richard. >>> kristin, over the weekend, he attended the funeral for the late senator inouye, who he has called an inspiration to him. what did you see in that service? >> well, more than 20 members of congress attended, mostly democrats,...
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to be all about reducing our debt and deficit. this was borne out of the debt crisis negotiation a year and a half ago. but i would say the president did win politically. he accomplished something i think we have never really seen by a modern american president which he has gotten this class warfare narative, tax the rich and we'll solve all our problems to become something very acceptable among a lot of americans and that put the republicans in congress in a precarious situation. even though we know there is absolutely no economic benefit by way of job creation, economic growth or even deficit reduction to tax the rich, the president accomplished and satisfied his greatest fixation, which really was enacting his social justice agenda through making tax rates punitive, not progressive which they already are. with that respect the president definitely scored a clear victory but the big conversation will be during the debt crisis negotiation, the debt ceiling negotiation in about two months. heather: but first, we managed to get thr
to be all about reducing our debt and deficit. this was borne out of the debt crisis negotiation a year and a half ago. but i would say the president did win politically. he accomplished something i think we have never really seen by a modern american president which he has gotten this class warfare narative, tax the rich and we'll solve all our problems to become something very acceptable among a lot of americans and that put the republicans in congress in a precarious situation. even though...
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this is not a deficit reduction deal that will stabilize the debt to gdp ratio and that has to be -- that has to be one of the goals of a broader deal that now we're probably going to be looking for on the other side of the cliff. >> yeah. i don't know. it doesn't seem to be any part of the president's goal. jared, good to see you always. jimmy, you, too. we'll get you guys back in just a few minutes. we'll get you to the roundtable if you haven't had enough yet. what will it mean for banks? new analysis shows that the expiration ever tax cuts will improve bank savings in 2013, by, listen to this, 54%. in other words, people will need to pull their cash savings out to pay for higher taxes. here now is dan geller, executive vice president of market rates insight. dan, good to have you here. walk me through this math. you're saying the average american is going to put 54% less into savings this year because if we go over the fiscal cliff? explain. >> yeah. let's go back, michelle because the amount of taxation on an average household is effort mated at $2600, and right now the average
this is not a deficit reduction deal that will stabilize the debt to gdp ratio and that has to be -- that has to be one of the goals of a broader deal that now we're probably going to be looking for on the other side of the cliff. >> yeah. i don't know. it doesn't seem to be any part of the president's goal. jared, good to see you always. jimmy, you, too. we'll get you guys back in just a few minutes. we'll get you to the roundtable if you haven't had enough yet. what will it mean for...
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this would increase the debt and deficit. republicans have one choice in the house. i don't know if boehner is able to do it. we'll go over the cliff of midnight tonight. the rates will be at the high rate. the bush tax cut will be over. if boehner is smart and the republicans including the conservatives in the caucus are smart, they would accept that, because there is no way it will be stopped. on thursday, the new republican house, should pass a bill, stand-alone bill that abolishes -- well, say that in reenacts the bush cuts for everybody up to $450,000. do it as a straight tax reduction. those who resisted it a week ago tax hike on the rich can argue it's not a hike, the hike already happened. but that is the only way to pre-empt obama extending all of this and making the republicans, fall guys for a hike in middle class taxes. >> bret: we're assuming it is past the senate. you have senators who have all expressed major concerns. >> you just know three most liberal senators, it's absurd, it should be million. >> you know anybody can stand up in the senate to caus
this would increase the debt and deficit. republicans have one choice in the house. i don't know if boehner is able to do it. we'll go over the cliff of midnight tonight. the rates will be at the high rate. the bush tax cut will be over. if boehner is smart and the republicans including the conservatives in the caucus are smart, they would accept that, because there is no way it will be stopped. on thursday, the new republican house, should pass a bill, stand-alone bill that abolishes -- well,...
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had to be a paydown on $24 billion of the deficit. we'll have two months to argue out the debt ceiling and the sequester. that was a bright line the president laid out to vice president biden and the staff, said that had to be in the deal, or no deal. >> might be too early, too soon, any read out, any sense of how the meeting's gone between the vice president and the house democrats or we're still working on that? >> reporter: i am not getting any -- any read-out yet because i think it's ongoing. but i will tell you that there is -- even going into it -- a sense of optimism here. the staffers who were working well past 2:00 a.m. last night still have not booked their vacation -- well, they have not left on vacation but i think they're approaching the point where they might feel comfortable booking their vacation travel for a few days. you get the sense they think this is going to wrap up. >> strange how we get our information. we have to look at people's travel and vacation plans. but, yes, it could give us an inkling we're getting cl
had to be a paydown on $24 billion of the deficit. we'll have two months to argue out the debt ceiling and the sequester. that was a bright line the president laid out to vice president biden and the staff, said that had to be in the deal, or no deal. >> might be too early, too soon, any read out, any sense of how the meeting's gone between the vice president and the house democrats or we're still working on that? >> reporter: i am not getting any -- any read-out yet because i think...